So, last Saturday Heroes Actor Greg Grunberg decided to make a fool of himself.
On Twitter he said:
Uhm… not cool, dude! Not cool at all.
I haven’t been following @greggrunberg for quite a while now, because – simply put – he just wasn’t funny and seemed kinda uninteresting. He just didn’t stand a chance in the “famous people” section of my twitter stream which is full of intelligent and funny people like Neil Gaiman, Amanda Palmer, Eliza Dushku or Rachel Maddow (to name only a few). So I missed the whole he/she drama. Fortunately fellow Tweeter FireboltX told me about it, asking me to politely call Grunberg out on his mistake. Apparently, quite a number of people have been doing exactly that.
Some remained indeed very polite:
Some tweets sounded a little more straighforward:
Even Canadian rock band The Cliks (Cliks singer Lucas Silveira is trans, for those who didn’t know) had something to say to Grunberg:
Since I myself am not a very polite person I just called him a douche as well. I didn’t expect him to react to that, but I would’ve expected him to react to the polite remarks his fans made, asking him to set it right. After all he did retweet further transphobic remarks that he had apparently fueled in some of his followers. So the “I don’t read my @replies”-excuse kind of doesn’t work. Hence the conclusion: not only is he stupid enough to say something that blatantly transphobic, he’s also not smart enough to retract it when called out on it.
Is this further proof that people just don’t take Twitter seriously? Would he have said something like that in a print interview or a TV segment?
But whether he intentionally made the remark fully aware of how transphobic it was or just doesn’t know better, it’s like the Trans Group Blog said: “Greg Grunberg has over 1.3 million subscribers to his feed. When he tweets this kind of transphobic “humor”, hundreds of thousands will read it. Furthermore, because Grunberg is a major television star and thus has a certain influence on those who enjoy his work, his words and opinions will likely have a lot more traction than the average Tweeter’s.”
There’s only two things to be said:
If it wasn’t his intention to hurt Chaz Bono and millions of other trans people it’s: “Please, Mr Grunberg, watch your words, you’re hurting people.” Which is what many have said to him, to no avail. He still hasn’t retracted his statement as far as I can tell.
If it was indeed intentional all one can say is simply: “Dude, stop being such a douche.”
edit: I apologised to Grunberg for my douche remark here. That indeed wasn’t the right way. However, my opinion still stands.
12/07/2009 at 9:43 pm
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12/07/2009 at 9:48 pm
Hey everyone, Greg is a funny guy and if you don’t like his criticism shut up and read something else. Greg, keep being up your interesting posts.
12/07/2009 at 9:50 pm
What a worthless article. If this was anyone else saying this, no one would say a thing. Just because he happens to be famous he’s REQUIRED to not act like a normal person should. He has every right to make jokes about anything and everything.
All this political nonsense is bullshit.
12/08/2009 at 12:02 am
apparently you have never been part of a minority or you wouldn’t say it’s ok to make jokes like that. if you’re hurting someone with your jokes, you should probably be rethinking them.
12/08/2009 at 12:15 am
also, if you’re in the limelight, which he is, you have to embrace a certain responsibility for how far your actions and word will go.
12/08/2009 at 1:10 am
I’m a lower-class white Southern American male. I am the most laughed about minority in the world. I get called an ignorant hick, a cracker, a racist, a republican nutjob, and many other things. And those aren’t even jokes, so I can’t laugh it off. But I let it roll off like water on a duck’s back. People need to learn to get some thicker skin.
12/08/2009 at 1:15 am
This is an interesting view, which I honestly have never considered (partly because I don’t live in the U.S.) I compliment you for having such thick skin. But maybe calling people out on that might be a good way to get some change going. there shouldn’t be the need to have such thick skin in the first place.
12/07/2009 at 9:56 pm
Its true…..
12/07/2009 at 10:01 pm
Woah man
a guy made a joke.
Greg is awesome, shut the fuck up and go be transgendered.
12/07/2009 at 10:01 pm
Ah, get over it. So now people can’t make jokes? People are fine with jokes about others until they themselves get hurt. Grunberg was not deliberately being insincere. That would have been more like saying, “Chaz Bono is a douche”.
12/07/2009 at 10:05 pm
Haha, way to go Grunny! That’s hilarious. Stupid “Chaz” Bono…
12/07/2009 at 10:21 pm
Greg was simply cracking a joke. Chaz identifies himself as male at this time, but is not physically male. It was a mild joke and I’ve heard MUCH worse jokes regarding Transgender people from more prominent folks.
Seriously, you can’t take every comment as a personal offense. If Chaz Bono has a problem with the comment, then let Chaz speak for himself! You all have NO place speaking for Chaz, nor any place for being offended on behalf of Chaz.
The people involved with this thread of comments are drama-mongers. Seriously, get over it, it wasn’t an attack and it wasn’t hateful. It’s not like he said, “I hate trans people and they can all go fuck themselves!”
Stop believing that every person is out to get you and that every sideways comment is an attack. Otherwise, how will the entire trans community truly be accepted, especially if they continue to force every comment into being an attack?
12/08/2009 at 12:59 am
I agree with this. Chaz Bono is going through a rough time right now with this process. So the truth is he DOESN’T look his best.
Greg Grunberg isn’t the skinniest man alive either. But he knows, accepts it, and rocks it! And when other people make comments or joke, he rolls with it.
If you can’t laugh at yourself, then you are taking yourself to seriously and not living a happy life.
12/07/2009 at 10:24 pm
Please, tell me exactly what’s transphobic about that comment, cause I don’t get it.
I’m a woman who likes to dress like a man, FYI, so I think I’m entitled to have an opinion about it all…
12/07/2009 at 10:30 pm
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12/07/2009 at 10:56 pm
Wow…..people….I guess no one here has ever seen a stand-up comedian? Because you would probably walk out after 5min from being SOOO offended. It’s a joke, c’mon.
If you take every little thing so personally, life is going to suck. Get over it, move on.
12/07/2009 at 10:57 pm
People need to stop being so damn serious about everything. It seems like people wait to take this crap up the butt. :/ It was a joke. Get over it.
12/07/2009 at 11:22 pm
agree, in theory. However, using the term ‘douche’? Defending transsexuals by using a misogynistic term?
How is that better?
12/08/2009 at 12:06 am
you are right – in part. Sure, I got angry. and I wanted to polarize. and I DID say: If it wasn’t his intention to hurt Chaz Bono and millions of other trans people it’s: “Please, Mr Grunberg, watch your words, you’re hurting people.”
12/07/2009 at 11:24 pm
This doesn’t represent transphobia, it’s just clearly a joke taken seriously. Text online leaves to much ambiguity to freak out over. He has appologised and now it’s your turn. If people requst something and it’s done, it’s only right to drop the situation. Please try to use your wordage properly as what you claim here is considered libel. Stating your opinion as fact is a major down fall of the Internet. Additionally, no one does take Twitter seriously.
12/08/2009 at 12:02 am
I couldn’t find his apology anywhere. would appreciate it if you could point it out to me pls.
12/08/2009 at 12:09 am
@ all who say that it is ok to make hurtful jokes about a minority: it’s not. go ask minorities about it. maybe you even are part of a minority yourself. can you make jokes about your own minority? that has been discussed a lot and ad infinitum. but you don’t go around making jokes about blacks/asians/women/etc. you don’t use the n-word and so forth. so why be like that to queer people?
12/08/2009 at 12:14 am
Because jokes are never transphobic? I think most of Greg’s defenders don’t understand that saying a trans man is not really a man IS transphobia.
I’m glad people called him out on it, but shame on him for not checking himself and saying, “Okay, you’re all telling me I said something hurtful, I’m sorry.” People who dig in their heels when told they were hurtful are so unattractive.
I was thinking about unfollowing him anyways because I was tired of seeing “YOWZA” every other tweet, and his insistence that Heroes still rocks is delusional at best (okay, so he probably can’t say anything mean about his employer, but STILL), but this it the last straw.
12/08/2009 at 2:53 pm
“Because jokes are never transphobic? I think most of Greg’s defenders don’t understand that saying a trans man is not really a man IS transphobia.”
But Chaz Bono is NOT a man, not yet, not until the final operation that s/he requires is done, something Chaz Bono has said themselves during an interview. So until this final operation has been completed, many many people are going to be falling over their feet to class Chaz as a she or a he. They’re not being transphobic, just not sure how to phrase words in the situation, a situation that is still VERY relatively new to the world at large.
So instead of jumping on everyone’s backs for slips of the tongues, why don’t people like yourself who are up in arms about this situation, go out there and try to CALMLY and RATIONALLY educate more people about the subject? Or is that too much of a herculian effort for you when it’s much easier to sit on your behind and spread even more hate from behind the safety of a keyboard…
12/14/2009 at 9:08 am
pre-op trans people are still trans. Gender has nothing to do with genitalia, no matter how hard everyone wishes it were that simple.
Gender = social construct
Chaz bono = male if he identifies as male.
12/08/2009 at 12:34 am
One of the biggest hurdles standing in the way of the progression of gay rights is the rediculous over-sensitivity of some members of the gay community, of which this blog is a prime example.
If Grunberg’s Tweet had been allowed to pass without comment, it would a sunk down people’s feeds into the ocean of anonymity that is the Twitterverse. Instead, it will now be discussed and rediscussed all over the place and those of an uneducated or unconcerned disposition will once again look at the gay/trans community as a bunch of screeching elitist jerks who jump on every non-pc comment by a celebrity or public figure as some kind of hate-crime.
Blogs entries of this nature and their behind-the-times authors do more damage to inter-sexuality relations than anything Greg Grunberg could ever do.
12/08/2009 at 12:47 am
I completely agree 100%. Please do not try to sensationalize something so ridiculously unimportant. Much obliged.
12/08/2009 at 12:44 am
It was a joke. Ha.Ha. Get over it. You’re what’s wrong with this world. Bunch of tight asses find something mildly offensive and you get your panties in a twist. I’m assuming you wouldn’t go and post this article if your neighbor or friend had said it, but because he’s a celebrity, you feel the need to defame him.
How about asking Chaz Bono how he felt about the comment and letting him decide if he was offended. After all, it does involve him. I have gay family members and trans friends and I asked them if they would be offended by Grunberg’s comments, and none of them were offended. They laughed. So boo hoo.
12/08/2009 at 1:03 am
I agree with your message and your point. But then YOU go and use an offensive and misogynistic term like douche. Anger doesn’t excuse you anymore than excuses someone being offensive when trying to be funny. If you want people to accept your issues, don’t turn to degrading remarks.
12/08/2009 at 2:11 am
While I can understand why people are upset about this comment he made, I think the reaction has gone beyond obsurdity. If no comment was ever made on people going through hard times, then the media would be completely dead. Whether it was a joke or just a comment he didn’t think through properly, for heaven’s sake, it wasn’t like the guy was all out blasting at Transgender people.
90% of the population are now claiming to be a minority of some kind, whether it is racial, sexual, whatever… when will this PC stuff be over and done with so we can all go back to being part of the majority… HUMANS!
You remember humans don’t you… these creatures who sometimes make mistakes.
12/08/2009 at 3:04 am
you people are way too sensitive. it’s sad really :[
12/08/2009 at 3:43 am
First, I will repost the comment I made yesterday at a related article on The Bilerico Project.
“Heroes” Star Greg Grunberg Tweets Transphobia
Take time to read the whole article before you reply to the comment I make here.
“It was me who brought Grunberg’s comment to the attention of Kate (@katebornstein, renowned transgender author) and others and asked for help. Here is the first tweet about this that I sent out:
http://twitter.com/FireboltX/status/6353559595
I had been following Grunberg’s tweets for a long time until this happened. I thought him to be a good guy, a tv actor who gives to charity to help find a cure for epilepsy. His son suffers from epilepsy. I did not expect to see such an ignorant tweet from him in my twitter timeline. When I did, I was shocked. I replied him politely that he should be more considerate, that calling a trans guy ‘she’ was extremely offensive. Then I sent out the tweet above, followed by more tweets directed towards calling this situation to the attention of those who could help. Many people responded to my calls and tweeted at him, thoughtfully and politely, pointing out that what he did was wrong and hurtful.
I had expected him to correct himself but guess what, he is just too big of an ass for that. After the flurry of condescending tweets by us, instead of acknowledging his mistake he decided to trash Bono more by posting a picture of a poodle, focusing on its genitals and asking his followers to guess whether it was male or female. At this point, I was enraged and called him out on his asshattery and so did others. He just ignored us and carried on with his trash talk.
Call this a trivial issue, call it what you will but the point is that I used to like this guy. I used to think he was a real life “Hero” but not anymore. I don’t understand how people can find it in them to joke at the expense of minorities like this. Making fun of such serious issues is SO not cool. Transition is a private, personal and extremely difficult process and people are intent on trashing transfolks. I read somewhere that 2 in 3 transsexuals attempt suicide and 1 in 3 succeed. And idiots such as Grunberg are not helping.
I’m still so outraged that I don’t know what to say to him or to anyone else, anymore.”
Now, let me give you some more facts:
1. I am a 17 year old closeted queer kid living in India. I am genderqueer and butch. I am one to know firsthand about oppression and discrimination. For example, if I had a dollar for every time that I have been degraded because of my gender identity, or have been called a he-she, shemale, 50-50 and other Hindi epithets about intersexed people and transsexuals, or have even been asked to take off my pants, yes, to ascertain my gender, I would be rich. And I’m not even transsexual! I can only imagine what Chaz and other transfolks go through.
2. I definitely have a sense of humor. Had I been uptight as you assume, I would have gotten offended and unfollowed Greg long ago. Ever watched Ellen DeGeneres? How many times has she made a joke that belittled a minority as extremely discriminated against as the trans community?
Humor does not call for deliberate pronoun misuse, especially in trans issues. No matter what Greg’s intent, his deliberate “she – himself” tweet was transphobic.
3. Do you know believe Greg would be impressed with someone who makes such a bad joke about epileptics?
4. For those of you asking for Chaz Bono’s opinion on this situation, don’t you get that it is not just about him? There are millions of transgendered people all over the world and his tweet with deliberate pronoun misuse was a stab at all of them. It needed to be called out on. Greg is a public figure and his words carry weight.
5. Why was it so that the only blog link that was given to you by him was the one which actively called him a douche? Why did he retweet other transphobic tweets supporting his inconsiderate words but there wasn’t a single retweet that showed how many of us told him politely and thoughtfully that his words were hurtful? Why did he refuse to address the issue until it escalated to such a height?
I never once did swear at him other than call him an ass and an idiot but only after he refused to acknowledge our polite calls for considerate behaviour and proceeded to further stretch his trashy comment by posting a picture of that poodle. It wasn’t funny. Your gender isn’t strictly defined by what’s between your legs, FYI. Trans people get that shit all the time, and sometimes even leading to brutal hate crimes against them. I’m definitely not saying Greg’s comment would directly lead to a murder but that the world would be better off if it were spared such inconsiderate attempts at humor.
You think jokes at the expense of transfolks are funny? Ask that to a 17 year old transgirl who is discriminated against and not allowed a job interview because “they don’t hire faggots.” Ask that to a trans kid who is considering suicide because he can’t stand the bullying. Ask that those who are brutally murdered in transphobic hate crimes and their murderers guilty get off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Considering what “Heroes” is about, he should be working to make the world a better place for those who face discrimination, instead of contributing in worsening it.
12/08/2009 at 8:03 pm
You don’t seem to understand that when you embark on these crusades against public figures you do more damage to your cause than good. You say that you asked others for ‘help’, help with what? Ganging up on one guy who made a fairly innocuous joke on a social networking site that is filled with much, much worse?
If you start getting overwrought and offended by such trivial and pointless things you start devaluing the idea of offence. If you starting organising online mobs and getting apopleptic about such a minor incident then how are you supposed to react to REALLY offensive things like genocide? There’s just nowhere to go.
By getting offended vlby it you’re just making things worse. Like I sad in my previous comment, if Grunberg’s twit had been ignored it would have slipped into obscurity and stayed there, remembered by noone unless they had a real passion for slightly mediocre risqué remarks. Instead, because you clearly get off on being offended and on the opportunity to seem morally indignat about one stupid joke rather than say, the war in Afghanistan or the AIDS crisis in Africa, Grunberg’s comment is now being discussed and rediscussed ad infinitum all over the place and not only does Chaz Bono have to hear about it but so do others of a more over-sensitive nature.
If you cared about Bono’s feelings at all you would have kept your mouth shut about it, but you don’t care, you care about winning he race to apppear the most morally outraged under some veneer that you are a spokesperson for the trans community. You’re not, you’re just another wailing elitist who things that complaint on the Internet will make things better.
12/09/2009 at 12:03 am
Basically, you are saying that it is not okay to speak up when one finds something wrong. The point of comparing this situation to the war in Afghanistan and the AIDS crisis in Africa is moot. There is no issue worthy or unworthy enough of attention. If it were so we would, for instance, keep on excluding one minority group and then another in the struggle for human rights until ultimately none was left deemed “worthy” enough to have equal rights – and the world would continue in its state of chaos instead of striving for perfection.
“For the greater cause,” seems to be your motto. It is like saying that we should shut up and ignore the smaller things that are wrong with this world until they grow as large and as catastrophic as a genocide. You seem to suggest that only the largest issues are worth addressing. You would rather people keep quite until there are mass murders and suicides because smaller issues are just not worth addressing.
Do you know me personally? Do you claim to have any idea about how I feel about other things like the war or AIDS? Why do you expect me to stuff my feelings and thoughts on every single damn thing that is wrong with this world in this debate? Just so people like you would be assured that this is not the only issue that gets me worked up? You don’t own the right to my opinions and feelings on other topics – and in any case, they are irrelevant to this cause.
What would have happened had Rosa Parks not refused to give up her seat in the front of the bus to a white person? Sitting in the front of the bus, sitting in the back of the bus – it’s all the same, right? Going by your recommended train of thought, she should not have spoken up because it definitely wasn’t as huge as the World War 2 aftermath. And that is just one example.
I don’t think that Grunberg is a transphobe of the worst degree ever. He is just your average actor who made the mistake of making a bad transphobic joke and then when called out on it, failed to acknowledge his fault and instead messed up the situation bad enough to really piss many people off. When I saw his tweet, I was sad that he didn’t know how offensive – yes, I dare use that word – it was. It hurt me on a personal level and I only wanted him to know better than that – and so did those who responded to my calls politely. You call that ganging up? A mob? Are you serious? But clearly, Grunberg wasn’t too happy about being politely educated. Humble as we were, our words although seemed to have struck his ego the wrong way and he chose to further showcase his ignorance which indeed pissed many people off.
And since you are so concerned about only Chaz’s feelings, how many times do I have to say that it is not solely about him? I am not even trying to be a trans spokesperson as you claim. It is a personal thing for me. I hate being trashed around and being called a he-she. I hate it when people joke about me in loud voices in public just so they could get off on watching me get uncomfortable and/or angry. I hate being bullied around. Why must I shut up when I can choose to try and make it better? Even if it weren’t personal, I have been taught that it helps to raise one’s voice – and clearly others agree with me, even if you don’t.
I could go on about how silence implies agreement and approval, about how silence kills but I gather it would be preaching to the choir.
A disease will not cure itself if ignored. Similarly, it is never a good idea to ignore a case where we could choose to ignore an ignorant person and let their ignorance increase over time OR we could act up and try to educate them, making the world a slightly better place in the process. Every little bit helps.
There is no race to appear morally high. There is only ignorance and disrespect. I care about Chaz’s and others’ and my own feelings. And I am not stupid enough to silently suffer the maltreatment.
Call me an elitist all you want but if in the future I find something that is wrong but is not garnering enough attention, if I can manage it I will work to see that the issue is addressed and worked upon. I will raise my voice and unlike you I will not choose to shut up.
12/10/2009 at 2:59 am
Since I couldn’t comment on the comment the sentence was made in, I’m commenting up here, sorry.
Quote: “The point of comparing this situation to the war in Afghanistan and the AIDS crisis in Africa is moot.”
I do not think that word means what you think it means. Did you mean “moot” as open to discussion or debate, purely academic, or theoretical?
Moot:
–adjective
1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
3. Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.
12/08/2009 at 4:46 am
Awwww poor baby wanna cry. Greg says something as simple as a tranz joke-which, btw, everyone who isn’t a powdered ass gay does, and you guys whine and whimper? Tran jokes have been around longer than Trans themselves. How’s about you stop attacking everyone who has a different opinion and grow the fuck up? Gays and Trans are going out of their way to make sure that everyone who has something to say that they consider damaging to their world ought to be made an example of. You’re no better than the KKK or Nazi’s. Everyone’s different you fools. Play nice, or gtfo.
12/08/2009 at 6:37 am
While I dislike your comment (which you have apologized for) it’s amazing to see all the apologists for the transphobic/cissexist attitude of the joke. I’m glad he, too, has apologized but good god what an awful joke to make. Which minority is next?, I have to wonder.
12/08/2009 at 6:55 am
Seriously people? I am sure that a majority of you have said worse. No, I’m sure that you all have. GET OFF HIS BACK ALREADY
12/08/2009 at 1:31 pm
I’m quite curious about something.
To Everyone getting all angry and ‘deeply offended’ by his comment:
Do you think this doesn’t happen all the time? Do you think that when most people walk down the street and see an obviously transgender person, we’re not wondering? We’re not asking outselves whether to call them a he or a she? For heaven’s sake, we can’t ask everyone to drop trousers just to check. And someone in the middle of the process, well, that makes it even more confusing.
Take a minute to think about this for a second before you blow up again. What if Greg Grunburg only saw the Chaz Bono picture? I was sitting here for twenty minutes wondering who the hell Chaz Bono was and why everyone was so pissed off. I had to go look HIM up, and I’m gonna be honest, if I saw HIM in the street, well, I’d be torn as to whether I approached ‘him’ or ‘her’.
12/09/2009 at 1:09 am
[...] Greg Grunberg is a douche – or doesn’t know better So, last Saturday Heroes Actor Greg Grunberg decided to make a fool of himself. On Twitter he said: [...]
12/09/2009 at 1:24 am
Hi everyone. I’m the author of the post on Bilerico Firebolt linked above.
There’s more to this story. I’d recommend keeping an eye on Bilerico tonight.
12/09/2009 at 6:54 am
I don’t feel like Greg was being offensive. It was a joke plain and simple. I got a chuckle out of it. I feel like you were only offended because it was a subject that you care about. I can understand why you felt offended but you need to know that not everyone is as sensitive as you. I’ve been called horrible names. I am a mixed race male living in Canada, just outside of Toronto. My mixed race background has given me brown skin. Growing up in school I was called a whole slew of names up to and including ‘terrorist’ especially after Pakistan set off their nuclear bombs back in the late 90′s and early 2000′s. September 11 didn’t help me much either.
The point is that I didn’t dwell on it. I moved on with my life and accepted that others have different view points than that of my own. There are some people that are super sensitive to certain subjects, but I feel like if you don’t like what’s happening or you don’t like what someone is saying, it’s your job to move away from those people or places and surround yourself with things that will encourage you to move forward.
12/09/2009 at 10:39 am
“shut the fuck up and go be transgendered” might just be the best “piss off” I’ve ever heard.
Honestly, I didn’t read most of the comments because they all seem to say the same thing. And I can only stretch that it isn’t okay, it’s not even funny, when only a certain set of people can laugh about it while the rest is offended. There are loads of jokes you can make without being hurtful.
Anyhoo, thanks for posting, queersome! I thought this especially disappointing since Grunberg was one of the few celebrities to speak out against Polanski and not be all whiny about him being rightfully arrested.
I disagree with your first reaction (though I find it completely understandable) but I think that with your apology, things should be fine. (And as GG seemingly still hasn’t apologised as far as I can tell, you have a lot more grace than he does.)
Anyway, final note: I don’t think that douche is a misogynistic thing to call anyone. A douchebag is a misogynistic thing itself and using it as a equivalent of crap is what it deserves.
12/09/2009 at 12:23 pm
Seriously, ppl are offended because of the wrong pronoun being used?? When I think about what hate really is about, this kinda makes it all ridiculous.
Look at ppl being bashed and killed for their looks, their sexuality, their gender etc – this is a common mistake amongst those who don’t know about and maybe don’t even care.
Are the wrong to not care about using the right pronoun? I don’t really think so, it’s not really a big deal and I don’t see why people have to put all their sensitivity and all their personality in someone using the wrong pronoun.
Come on, there are far worse things in the world to complain about.
HOw about using the word “douche” for one thing?
12/11/2009 at 1:41 pm
I think your way of speaking out was a little harsh – but, hey, so was this “joke”. When you reply to something inappropriate you are entitled to be a little unpolite, especially to a public figure like GG.
I don’t get why you get so much bashing and “hey, you need thicker skin” remarks.